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JimH Posted on 03/27/2011 23:33
I used the same profile as the other 2 beans I tried...
200F at 1:10 300F at 4:45 380F at 7:45 (first crack) 400F at 12:00 To put it in perspective, on my roaster second crack usually starts somewhere around 415F. All of the ramps were pretty smooth and agitation was kept pretty constant. I have roasted the same Brazil since,
using a slower approach to 200F(慢一點到達200℉). It
was much less ashy at 1:30 to 200F but still somewhat unpleasant.
At 2:00 to 200F it regained some of the lighter
chocolates and nutty tones that I prefer.
If I was to hazard a guess, I would say
that the large differential between environmental and bean temps necessary
for a fast ramp is more destructive in a less dense bean. I had more or less
assumed this was true before trying a fast ramp on a soft bean, but I was
already so surprised by the positive results I had received from the Java
that it seemed like a worthwhile experiment.
One question I do still have is the difference between a fast ramp due to a higher drop temperature and a fast ramp due to greater heat application. Unfortunately, I just ran out of crappy Brazils, so I'll need to order more. It has never ceased to amaze me just how difficult it is to get a good roast out of a low grown soft bean, but that does make them very useful for experimentation. Jim |
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JimH
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Posted on
04/05/2011 11:11
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Allen, I
tried your profile this weekend. I also tried another few variations, leaving
me with a lot of badly roasted coffee. I love the learning process of
experimenting with profiles, but hate the waste.
Anyway, I would agree that your profile has better sweetness and body, but it didn't get rid of the slightly burned taste. A hint of ashiness remained. But while I was roasting, I tried variations. I was curious to see if the ashiness was a product of too high a drop in temperature, or too fast of a temperature increase. I did 4 different roasts, keeping almost all parameters the same. What I changed was drop in temperature, which necessitated a change in temperature ramp, and time to 200℉.
The 4 Roasts Case were:
1) 1:10 to 200℉ with high drop in temp (用較高的入豆溫度於 1:10到達200℉)
2) 1:10 to 200℉ with fast temperature ramp(用較高的提溫速率於 1:10到達200℉)
3) 2:00 to 200℉ with high drop in temp(用較高的入豆溫度於 2:00到達200℉)
4) 2:00 to 200℉ with fast temperature ramp(用較高的提溫速率於 2:00到達200℉)
結果:
Anyway, I would agree that your profile has better sweetness and body, but it didn't get rid of the slightly burned taste. A hint of ashiness remained. But while I was roasting, I tried variations. I was curious to see if the ashiness was a product of too high a drop in temperature, or too fast of a temperature increase. I did 4 different roasts, keeping almost all parameters the same. What I changed was drop in temperature, which necessitated a change in temperature ramp, and time to 200℉.
The 4 Roasts Case were:
1) 1:10 to 200℉ with high drop in temp (用較高的入豆溫度於 1:10到達200℉)
2) 1:10 to 200℉ with fast temperature ramp(用較高的提溫速率於 1:10到達200℉)
3) 2:00 to 200℉ with high drop in temp(用較高的入豆溫度於 2:00到達200℉)
4) 2:00 to 200℉ with fast temperature ramp(用較高的提溫速率於 2:00到達200℉)
結果:
l
1 and 2 had
much better aromas and fuller body, but also had that touch of carbon.
l
3 and 4 had flatter aromas, but no carbon
and relatively undeveloped flavors.
l
There also
was no significant difference in flavor between high drop in temp and fast temperature ramp in either starting time.
Simply put,
it doesn't seem to matter, I would assume because there isn't any thermal mass
of the roaster to worry about.
After giving it some thought, I tried the next experiment. I roasted 3 batches, varying the time from 200F to 380F.
再做3個實驗(只變動200℉ 至 380℉的提溫速率 ):
After giving it some thought, I tried the next experiment. I roasted 3 batches, varying the time from 200F to 380F.
再做3個實驗(只變動200℉ 至 380℉的提溫速率 ):
l
2:00 to
200F for all
l
第7:00, 8:00 and 9:00 to 380F(持續時間分別為 : 5、6、7分鐘)
l
full city
finish at 第11:00, 12:00 and 13:00 (4:00 from 1st to finish)
結果:
l
The 11
minute roast had good clarity, less sweetness, less body, but no carbon or
ashiness.
l
The 12
minute roast was fuller, sweeter, undoubtedly a better roast.
l
The 13 minute roast was even more full, sweeter, very nice flavor
development, but it was starting to get a slight woody accent.
All of
these roasts had a significant weight loss while roasting, so it is possible
that I simply ran out of moisture towards the end of the 13 minute roast. Even
so, it is definitely the best of the three. I am now very interested to see how
it tastes as espresso.
Jim
Jim
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